IlfordArmy 3:51 Wed Aug 27
Rice Krispies
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stupid cereal , waste of bloody time
any one disagree ?
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Alex_The_Iron
5:33 Thu Aug 28
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Scraper 1:23 Thu Aug 28
Absolutely it would (as would be the case with whatever composition of your breakfast or indeed any meal), which is why I said your portion sizes need to be in check. Energy balance will still determine weight loss (or gain).
The thing here is that if your body is better primed to metabolise fatty acids from early on in the day, there will be a greater percentage of these utilised for energy in the waking hours (as opposed to glucose) so with a calorie deficit, a greater percentage of your deficit will be made up from (body)fat.
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REALGSA
4:14 Thu Aug 28
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But when I come home pissed, nothing better than gluten free rice krispies with almond milk, lines the stomach so Im not fucked in the morning
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REALGSA
4:12 Thu Aug 28
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stay away from things like soy milk, no good for men
If you want to loose fat, stay off the bread and pasta, no proper trainer eats these.
If your gonna do a 3 hour workout or marathon etc then ok, have the pasta, but make sure its wholemeal, defo no white pasta which 99% restaurants sell, its the cheapest crap.
Cereals contain too much sugar also watch of for muesli as these too can contain this with dried fruit, which is ok, but if you want to fat strip it isn't.
Cut the white carbs and the sugar and you will loose weight, try for 2 to 3 weeks and be hardcore
Drink 3 to 4 litres of water a day, no other drinks, it works out like 6 to 8 bottos of 50cl bottles of water, which is nothing.
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Scraper
1:23 Thu Aug 28
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Alex_The_Iron 10:59 Wed Aug 27
If what you are suggesting would be true, wouldn't the body utilise the fatty acids just ingested instead of diving into the stores? I believe it would.
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Moncurs Putting Iron
1:17 Thu Aug 28
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ATI,
On a day that I am excerising I have Porridge with Fruit and full fat yoghurt or Muesli and Almond Milk with full fat yoghurt.
On a recovery day or the morning after a heavy race or boot camp session I have Scrambled Egg and Salmon. A vegetable omelette or one of my favourites a fruit Omelette. (Sounds gross but is delicious, banana, handful of blackberries, finish it off under the grill with a dusting of cinnamon)
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Moncurs Putting Iron
1:10 Thu Aug 28
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Dorest Cereal Nutty Muesli with Almond Milk and you have a deal.
(Has dried fig pieces instead of sultanas and raisins which I prefer)
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Swiss.
9:49 Thu Aug 28
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Museli with almond milk.
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Too Much Too Young
9:40 Thu Aug 28
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Don't the Sweaties have salt and water in their porridge?
That's fucking wrong..
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stomper
4:01 Thu Aug 28
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Without rice crispies you couldn't make those chocolate cake like thingamajigs could you? End of discussion
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cosmo smallpiece
3:51 Thu Aug 28
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Corn Flakes with sliced bananas. Fucking superb!
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bruuuno
11:43 Wed Aug 27
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REALGSA 7:18 Wed Aug 27
I tried almond milk after reading your post, tastes nice with some weetabix and chocolate whey powder.
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bruuuno
11:43 Wed Aug 27
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REALGSA 7:18 Wed Aug 27
I tried almond milk after reading your post, tastes nice with some weetabix and chocolate whey powder.
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Alex_The_Iron
10:59 Wed Aug 27
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It's not been conclusively proven or disproven.
But there are a few reports which suggest it. e.g.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8862476 - shows increased oxidation of the primary macronutrient consumed at breakfast
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v34/n11/full/ijo201063a.html - study done on mice which suggests metabolic flexibility retained with a higher fat breakfast
Of course, this doesn't mean you can over-consume calories just because you ate a higher-fat breakfast. Overall calories still need to be in check, but it's likely you'll oxidise more fat instead of glucose (derived from carbs or protein), and weight loss will consist of a greater % of bodyfat vs muscle. Over time this would add up.
Incidentally I'm not suggesting a high fat diet for weight loss, and never would do so. Just that a relatively higher fat lower carb breakfast is most likely a good idea for the sedentary and/or overweight population.
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Sarge
10:14 Wed Aug 27
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kosher ready brek
central heating for y*ds
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Scraper
10:08 Wed Aug 27
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Yes. IMHO there should be a nutrition speciality within medicine.
Your claims did sound a bit pseudo-scientific though. Has the below been proven?
"What you eat in the morning (after a period of fasting) determines the majority fuel source the body will look for during the waking hours."
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Alex_The_Iron
9:58 Wed Aug 27
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You wouldn't go to a doctor though for nutritional advice would you? You'd go to a dietician (failing that a nutritionist, but this isn't the same thing at all). Doctors learn very little about nutrition during their studies.
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/12/nutrition-taught-medical-school.html
I've posted before that most of my info comes from sports scientists and dieticians, who have a vested interest in keeping their athletes performing at a high level while staying healthy and at a favourable body composition. This info can also be applied to the general non-training population (scaled back appropriately of course).
Mainstream medical advice and policy is based on keeping people alive, not necessarily at the peak of health or at their preferred bodyweight/composition, just to achieve the minimum to keep us functioning.
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Billy Blagg
9:41 Wed Aug 27
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I have to put sugar on them which is not really a good idea so I'm out.
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Organi5ed Chao5
9:40 Wed Aug 27
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I used to work with one guy who spent the bulk of his wages each month on new trainers and cereal!
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Scraper
9:36 Wed Aug 27
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They often know surprisingly little, that's true.
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bruuuno
9:29 Wed Aug 27
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You'd be surprised at how little doctors know about diet and nutrition, scraper
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Takashi Miike
9:25 Wed Aug 27
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*the paleo/crossfit zealots*
very harsh on steven p
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